From Mass Surveillance to Today's Privacy Wars

Over a dozen years have passed since those explosive revelations exposed how governments operate in the shadows—mass data collection, surveillance infrastructure, the whole apparatus. The world woke up to the scale of it all. But did anything fundamentally shift?

In a candid conversation with cryptography expert Bruce Schneier, we dig into whether the initial shock translated into real change. How have our views on privacy, encryption, and state power actually evolved? What's the gap between awareness and action? These questions matter more than ever in a world building toward decentralized alternatives and questioning centralized control.