Time-weighted governance is truly a double-edged sword. Taking LISTA as an example, the design of nveLISTA with a 52-week maximum lock-up period seems to be able to identify genuine participants, but in reality, it has already planted the seeds of centralized power structurally.



The most obvious issue is the severe imbalance in voting rights. Large holders who lock their tokens for dozens of weeks hold significantly more voting power than short-term participants, and small retail investors almost have no say at all. The intention was to filter for "loyalty" through time, but instead, it ends up firmly consolidating governance power in the hands of a few whales.

As the protocol develops to a certain stage, this problem will become increasingly apparent. When decision-making power is highly concentrated, flexibility diminishes accordingly. Proposals that favor large holders—such as unlimited incentives to boost certain liquidity pools—start to increase. This shortsighted approach actually harms the long-term development of the ecosystem.

In plain terms, this is a oligopoly trap that all veToken models face in their later stages. No matter how mechanisms are designed, as long as voting rights are linked to token lock-up periods, it inevitably results in a few large addresses maintaining control over the long term. This is a systemic issue, not a problem specific to individual projects.
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CrashHotlinevip
· 21h ago
I've seen through this trick a long time ago; the ve model is just a power game tailored for big players. The veToken approach is heading towards centralization; there's nothing new about it. Retail investors' say? Haha, it's basically zero. I think instead of changing the mechanism, it's better not to bother with governance at all, since ultimately the power still lies with the big whales. That 52-week lock-up in LISTA? It's basically just helping big players consolidate power. Agreed, this isn't unique to LISTA; the entire ve ecosystem is rotten through and through. Short-sighted proposals are flying everywhere, the ecosystem's countdown to death. How can anyone still believe this mechanism can achieve true decentralization? That's hilarious. Someone should have exposed this truth long ago, thank you.
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AirdropAnxietyvip
· 21h ago
It's the same old trick again—longer lock-up periods mean more centralized power. In the end, it's still the whales calling the shots. --- It's been obvious for a long time that this mechanism is tailor-made for big players. --- Every project has to step on the veToken landmine; it's truly unsolvable. --- Small retail investors shouldn't expect to have a say; be realistic. --- No matter how it's designed, it can't escape the oligarchs' spell. Just admit it outright. --- This round of LISTA really flopped; I thought it could be democratic. --- So, is decentralized governance itself just a false proposition? --- The longer the lock-up, the greater the power. Isn't this just openly encouraging big players to hoard tokens? --- Just being able to get in is good enough; don't expect to have a say. --- The same old tricks have been played several times. Project teams should learn some new tricks.
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tx_pending_forevervip
· 21h ago
Another old trick of veToken: the longer the lock-up period, the greater the power. Where is the promised decentralization? In the end, it's still the whales calling the shots. Did the designers of these governance mechanisms really not consider what they might look like in the long run? A single LISTA exposes it so clearly. Small retail investors don't even have a say. This is called community governance? I think it's just power centralization under a different guise.
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MemeEchoervip
· 21h ago
It's the same veToken trick again—longer lock-up periods mean more power, and in the end, big players call the shots. Wait, isn't this just another form of centralization? Indeed, the original intention of the LISTA design was good, but in practice, it has become a playground for whales. Short-term participants are being pushed out, who would still dare to participate?
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GasFeeCryingvip
· 21h ago
It's the same old trick again—locking up tokens to double your say-so? Small investors immediately become mere foils. Large investors' decisions are indeed prone to shortsightedness; they just take a profit and run after a wave. veToken is inherently a trap from its design; it's not LISTA's fault, the entire industry operates this way. This kind of centralized governance will inevitably lead to problems, just watch.
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NoodlesOrTokensvip
· 21h ago
This is the inevitable fate of veToken. No matter how it's packaged, it can't escape oligarchic control. Large holders locking for 52 weeks can veto with a single vote; retail investors locking their tokens are useless. Essentially, the rich get richer. The design of LISTA was flawed from the start; it will crash sooner or later. Instead of optimizing the voting mechanism, it's better to directly decentralize governance rights, but no one is willing to relinquish power, right? The veToken model should go bankrupt, really.
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DataPickledFishvip
· 21h ago
It's the same old story, the ve model is just a machine for giving big whales a red carpet That's why I never lock for more than 4 weeks, what's the point? The nveLISTA setup is no different from veCRV; ultimately, governance power still revolves in the hands of whales Small investors don't stand a chance; it's high time to face reality Relying on time-weighted voting to "filter for loyalty" is essentially just an excuse to rationalize centralized power veToken was a ticking time bomb from the start, and now various ecosystems are paying the price Instead of hoping for democratic governance, it's better to just admit that it's a whale club
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